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dr_Lord
07-25-2004, 01:44 AM
History Taking

Welcome everyone. In this thread I will try cover the important points in history taking.

First let’s know the main titles in the history (Hx);

1- Patient’s Personal Data.
2- Chief Complain.
3- History of Presenting Illness (HPI).
4- Past Medical History.
5- Medications, Allergies, and Blood Transfusions.
6- Family History.
7- Social History.
8- Systemic Review.


Now we can discuss the details of each one.

1- Patient’s Personal Data: This includes patient’s Name, Age, Sex, Nationality, Date of admission, and the way of admission (through ER or OPD).

2- Chief Complain: Ask the patient about the specific reason/reasons of admission. Why was he admitted to the hospital this time, let’s say for example (Doctor, I felt some pain in my chest 3 hours ago which made me to come to the ER!!) so we write Chest Pain as his Chief Complain.

3- History of Presenting Illness: Now after knowing the Chief Complain, take more information and details about it/them. If the patient complains of more than one thing, you have to discuss them separately. Ask the patient the following questions.
A- Onset: when did it happen to you sir?! Try to take exact timing.
B- Duration: How long did take when happened?! Was it continuous of intermittent?!
C- Site: Where do you feel it of notice it?!
D- Radiation: Does it go to any other sites?! Can you feel it in other sites?!
E- Character: Can you describe it for me sir?! How does it feel like??!
F- Severity: How sever was it?! Does it prevent you from sleeping or work normally?!
G- Progression: Does it improve or getting worse during the last few days?! or since it occurred to you.
H- Aggravating factor: Is their any thing that aggravates it?!
I- Relieving factor: Is their any thing that relieve it?!
J- Associated symptoms: When it occurred, was there any thing else occurred to you?!

N.B. Let the patient answers you by his own words first, and explains to him what ever he doesn’t understands.

4- Past Medical History: Ask about any past illness (e.g. Asthma, T.B?) and ask about PREVIOS ADMISIONS to hospitals and why and for how long did he stay in it.
5- Medications, Allergies, and Blood Transfusions: Ask the patient if he is taking any medications (especially if he has chronic illness). Name the medications and their type, how many times/day does he take them, and the amount. Ask if the patient has any allergy to kind of drug or food. Ask also about previous blood transfusion (when, why, how many units).

6- Family History: Ask if any member of his family has a history of disease (e.g. T.B) or same complain.

7- Social History: Well, it might be little embarrassing for you at the beginning and difficult to ask, but you MUST ask in a polite way to NEVER embarrasses the patient. Ask about the followings: Marital, Children, Smoking, Alcohol, Education, Occupation, Travel … etc.

8- Systemic review: ask about each system separately e.g. CNS, CVS, Renal …etc.

Remember:
-Always be polite with the patient and never embarrass him.
-Be systemic in the history order, just follow the points I’ve mentioned already so that you will not get confused and mix up the informations in your mind.
-Be confident and don’t be shy, and always remember that there are residents and specialists around you, If you didn’t understand something go and ask them in a polite way and they won’t refuse helping you.


Done, with my best regards;
Dr.Lord

MAJ
07-25-2004, 09:27 AM
Asslam Alaikum

Great Great Great

Really It is wounderful

I advice the students to be with you step by step to not loss any information

Also I advice them to copy or have a notes on these threads

It is helpful for them in the future

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I have a suggession for you dr.Lord

If you see it is helpful in your topic you can add it

And if it is not & you have better , You can ignore it

You are talking now about the history step by step , and I think you will reach to commonest symptoms how you will evaluate it specifically, once you reach to that point of the topic what do say if you bring with them some of the simple cases you or other wrote them from real hospital patient , I mean your histories which were practicing them daily in the hospital and correct and discuss them with the tutors ???

I think by this way the practicing will be more easier and simple for the audiants

This was an idea in my mind if you see it good you can apply it over here

Thanx a lot dr.Lord

And Good bless you

:sun:

Dr.wrood2004
07-25-2004, 11:43 AM
Dr.Lord
what a great effort you are doing here ,,
I am appreciating what you doing and praying to Allah to make all this for you in ÂÎÑÉ
InshaAllah we will be with you for any help ..

wish you the whole best in this life
best regards

Moderators Family
07-25-2004, 12:12 PM
thanx dr Lord


to my printer Immediately


Allah bless u

dr_Lord
07-25-2004, 02:22 PM
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First of all, thank you all for joining me and I hope the thread was clear and useful, I really appreciate it and I hope that my seniors help me in their comments and participations.

sis MAJ, you'r welcome and thank you for the words and for the advice. It was in my mind and I'll try to give an example and attach one of the cases I reported in Al-Noor Hospital.

Dr.Wrood, Thank you for your praying which is all what I really need. and may Allah bless ya.

Dr.X, I hope that it was useful for you, and Allah bless you too.

I'll write an example soon inshallah.

see you soon...

dr_Lord
07-25-2004, 07:11 PM
Some points need to be noticed in the thread.

1- The Chief complain: the last 10 points I’ve already mentioned in the thread concerns mainly to the Pain, when a patient comes to you with a pain in the abdomen or chest or where ever in his body you have to ask that 10 questions. Actually most of the symptoms need those questions but defers b/w each others and you can get them from the books teaching Hx and Ex. (e.g. vomiting you need to ask about the amount, frequency, if it was projectile or not, color, associated with blood… etc).

2- Pay attention while dealing with the patients, the old man is not as the young guy in your age, and the old ladies defers from young one, also children under 14 need different maneuvers. Some of the patients need to be serious with them while others like elderly peoples need some polite gentile way.

3- In the social Hx, Don’t jump directly on the patient and ask him: “Sir, do you smoke or drink alcohol??!” Or, “how many wives do you have??!” If you were the patient you will kill that doctor. You need to ask those questions BUT in a polite way that won’t embarrasses the patient, first tell the patient that you gonna ask him few personal questions that you have to ask and it helps in his diagnosis and it will be between you both only. Just try your own way and be confident.

4- Always be confident and make a strong relationship with the patient. Knock the door first, say Salam, ask his permission to take the history, let a small smile in your face, and let the patient feels the care from you.

5- Be systemic in your Hx an Ex so you won’t miss any thing inshallah. It’s so important.

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Done, with my best wishes
Dr.Lord

dr_Lord
07-26-2004, 03:57 PM
Well, there is nothing much to add. Most of the Hx taking depends on the student's skills.

You can get some discussions about Hx taking and download The History Card from this thread:
http://www.uqumed.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1992

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I added a sample of real Hx and Ex report from a patient with heart disease in Al-noor. The case in written as a report... you can download it and discuss it with us if you want.

Bye Bye :12: