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[د- محمد العوفي]

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[د- محمد العوفي]

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INTERNSHIP ROTATIONS & HOSPITALS
asalam 3alaikom

one of the first dilemma u will face postgraduation is how to choose ur internship rotations
i think it is really important to know about each hospital, pros and cons, before u choose ur rotations, 2 make ur internship as much enjoyable and beneficial as it should be, all what i write here is my own opinion, if anyone has other opinion, we can share it together in this thread

1- KING FAHAD ARMED FORCES HOSPITAL - JEDDAH
i took my medicine rotation in KFAFH, it was nice and tough, working hours from 7:30am to 5pm, morning meeting lasts about 1 hour, oncalls about 1/4 or 1/5, so u will end up with 6-7 oncalls/month,usually there r 10 -12 intern per rotation, there r 2 interns oncall everyday, one in ER, one in ward, if u r n ER,u can present the cases in morning meeting, only on sunday and tuesday, admissions n medicine ranges from 5-15 pt daily, u will have bleep only in ur oncall time then u give it to the intern oncall next day, they have very high-tech lab and radiology computer system, very well organized hospital
the only problem is that they dont have all subspecialties in medicine e.g. hematology, rheumatology, and also u cant take cardiology under medicine, u can only take it as elective month in the CCU

intern coordinator Dr.Murtuza Khan, endocrinlogist

contact no. 026653000 ext. 3059 Medical Education Center

surgery is not good in KFAFH as i heard from my colleagues there, pediatrics is good but i dont know much about it, OBG in KFAFH is not good if u r interesting in OBG

2- KING KHALID NATIONAL GUARD HOSPITAL
medicine here is very good, the working hours 8am-6pm,
oncalls about 5 per month, u will be in Continuous Teaching Unit CTU in the first month, then u can choose other subspecialties in next 2 monthes, they have almost all medical subspecialty, u will be given bleep from the first day, it will be with u throughout ur rota, they have a good lab computer system but no radiology computer system, overall my colleagues impression was good but i dont have personal experience

surgery in NG is good, very well organized, u will see some major and complicated operations and there r good teaching activities, but it is not very busy hospital, u will not see 3 or 4 appenidicitis admissions daily, like in other MOH hospitals, and the residents there r fighting for any simple procedure, or operation, u will not have the chance to do all the procedures and practice the surgical skills, and everything should b co-signed by residents, but overall it is good for learning ur basic surgical knowledge

pediatrics in NG is good also, u can see some of the complicated cases esp. oncology, and the dept. is very nice to prepare u for ur residency

OBG in NG is one of the best, u will learn all the basic knowledge and surgical and operatin ur rotaive skills in ur rota, u will get exposure to labour room where u can learn episiotomy and normal delivery procedures, then u will take gyne then obstetrics rota each one for 2 weeks, then u will take 2 weeks in gynecology oncology where u will learn a lot about oncology cases, oncalls are 4-6/month, u can enjoy ur rota there and there are many teaching activities for residents and interns, and the dept. is considered one of the best OBG dept in western region

contact no. 02624000 ext. 2774 academic affairs

3- KING FAHAD GENERAL HOSPITAL - JEDDAH
surgery here is very nice, u can practice the surgical skills with the residents who r very cooperative, u will have 5-6 oncalls, 2-3 interns oncall daily, u can divide the shifts, the working hours 8am - 3pm, u will have seminars and teaching but not that much, they r not very tough, in general a good hospital for exposure of huge amount of cases and practice surgical skills, most of the time u will have at least 1-2 apendicitis cases per day.

medicine in KFGH is not as strong as KFAFH and NGH, but still u will have a good number of cases, and they have seminars for interns, they have about 30 interns per rotation, so u will not have too much work

4- KING ABDULIAZIZ UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL
u can call the secretary to check for positions during the time of ur rota, the best dept. there is OBG, surgery is also good, according to my colleagues there

5- KING ABDULAZIZ (ALMA7JAR HOSPITAL)
if u want to be a surgeon, this hospital is the best for u, u will have a good exposure for trauma cases and u will practice all surgical procedures and skills with good residents

6- ALNOOR SPECIALIST HOSPITAL - MAKKAH
medicine here is good but not the best
surgery is very good if u r interesting, u will be flooded with a lot of cases for clerking and presentation in meeting and rounds, but u will learn, if u r not intersting u will not like it
pediatrics dept in alnoor is good, many cases and many nice senior doctors, but not too much work
OBG is good in alnoor, u can see cases and practise, but there other better hospitals if u r interesting

7- ALZAHER HOSPITAL - MAKKAH
most of u know this hospital, i think surgery here is very good because of a lot of cases, u can do many operation especially in oncall time
medicine here is also good but not well organized

8- ALSHESHA HOSPITAL - MAKKAH
i dont have idea, but if u r interesting in trauma cases, i thing u will see enough in surgery there, also there r some cooperative senior doctors
medicine here is not the first choice if u r interesting

9- MCH - MAKKAH
OBG there is good for the number of cases, but not very good in teaching and interns activities

some advices:
-if u r interesting in one rota, dont take it in summer holiday because most of the consultants r in leave, also dont take it in Ramadan, especially surgery because there r no elective admissions
-try to take the rota u r interesting in during the first months so u r fresh and enthusiast, and keep the elective rota for the last months so u can choose the specialty u will specialize in and be ready for the residency
-take different rotations in different hospitals so u know the environment and systems of the hospitals
-get use of ur internship, u have no responsibility and u r a doctor, behave like a real doctor, have ur own impression and plan for each patient u see, discuss it with ur senior, do and participate in all procedures and operation u want, do ABG, catheters, NGT, ascitic tap, chest tubes......etc. under supervision of ur senior
-some of the specialty u may not have the chance to practice it again in ur future, try to know at least the basic of that specialty which will make u a good doctor, u may also find urself interesting in that specialty
-use ur pocket pc or palm, they r very helpful especially during oncalls, be always uptodate and have interenet access from ur pocket pc, one of the very good books is internal medicine oncall by skyscape, u can download it from the website but u have to register for free and u should have the crack from the CD:
http://www.skyscape.com/estore/Prod...?ProductId=1671

these r some of advises i think u may need, many of the colleagues were asking about the best hospitals for each rotation so i prefer to put my opinion here so u might find it useful, and please if u can add more or modify some of these, u can post ur suggestion
hope u all the best in ur future
enjoy ur internship

salam
zizo

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لنا عودة

[د- محمد العوفي]

for those who going to be in taif...specialist hospital ( kAASH ) is not that much good in medicine king faisal is way better..to be honest

but i know the stuff there and im not interestin in medicine so ill b with them .. not for fallah i mean but when u know someone u can get more info and help and teaching as well

to be continued...

[ThirdYear]

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